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		<title>New kitchen cabinets, part three</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 05:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>robfelty</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[electrical]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[kitchen]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tile]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[New kitchen! The final step in finishing the kitchen project was to put a new counter top on the cabinets. We ended up buying Roman Stone Noce porcelain tile. It is manufactured, but is designed to have a natural look, so there is some variation in it, which gives it a nice texture. Once I [...]]]></description>
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<div class="imagecaption">New kitchen!</div>
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<p>The final step in finishing the kitchen project was to put a new counter top on the cabinets. We ended up buying Roman Stone Noce porcelain tile. It is manufactured, but is designed to have a natural look, so there is some variation in it, which gives it a nice texture. Once I had the plywood and cement board attached to the cabinets, I had a solid foundation for the tile, and was ready to start tiling.</p>
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<div class="imagecaption">The trickiest cut was the mitre cut in the v-cap on the inside corner.</div>
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<p>On Monday I started off by cutting a few tiles before I actually started laying tile. I knew that there would be a couple tricky cuts, particularly the inside corner of the v-cap by the stove. As it turns out, it took me more than an hour to get the miter cut to my satisfaction. I used the tile saw I had just bought to do the cutting. I went with the second cheapest option on the tile saw, which turned out to be pretty good. The saw had the option of tilting the table, so I could do miter cuts. Unfortunately, after tilting the table, the saw was no longer tall enough to cut totally through the v-cap. So I fiddled around until I got it right. I also tried to cut a few tiles with the new tile snapper I had bought. I found out it doesn&#8217;t seem to work for porcelain tile, which is quite a bit harder than ceramic tile. So I ended up having to use the tile saw for all my cuts, even the straight ones.<br />
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<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8386.jpg" title="The corner pieces worked out very well"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8386-250x166.jpg" alt="The corner pieces worked out very well" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-581" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">The corner pieces worked out very well</div>
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<p>With my new found knowledge about my tile snapper being useless on porcelain tile, I decided to make a few more cuts before mixing up the mortar, especially the ones around the sink hole. I also determined that I needed a few more v-cap pieces, since I decided to put v-cap next to the stove, even though it meant moving the stove. So I went to Lowe&#8217;s and grabbed a quick burrito for lunch. When I got back I mixed up another batch of thin-set mortar. While I was waiting for it to slake for 10 minutes, I removed the tools from the cement board, and swept it with a hand broom to remove any debris.</p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8390.jpg" title="Mitre cut up close"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8390-250x166.jpg" alt="Mitre cut up close" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-584" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Mitre cut up close</div>
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<p>I started off putting the v-cap on, since it requires both some mortar as well as a bead of silicone sealant  where it meets the plywood and the edge of the cement board. I placed all of the v-cap tiles on the sink side, then I capped off the silicone sealant and did the field tile. Laying the field tile was relatively easy. I did notice when I got to the other side of the sink that my grout lines were starting to drift a bit, and since I had chosen a small grout line, I wasn&#8217;t able to correct it too much. It doesn&#8217;t seem too noticeable though. If you come to visit us, please feel free to point out all my mistakes.</p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8387.jpg" title="Backsplash is up, and sink is secured to the countertop with silicone. One edge didn&#039;t want to sit down, so I put the garbage disposal on it as weight"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8387-250x166.jpg" alt="Backsplash is up, and sink is secured to the countertop with silicone. One edge didn&#039;t want to sit down, so I put the garbage disposal on it as weight" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-582" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Backsplash is up, and sink is secured to the countertop with silicone. One edge didn&#039;t want to sit down, so I put the garbage disposal on it as weight</div>
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<p>After I finished all the tile on the sink side, I took a brief break, then worked on the opposite side, again starting with the v-cap. I did do one little trick on this corner. The corner piece seemed a bit lower than the rest of the v-cap, so I put a little shim underneath it to raise it up, which worked very nicely. Now I had to let the mortar set up overnight before I put the backsplash on.</p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8397.jpg" title="New (left) and old (right) cabinet hardware"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8397-250x166.jpg" alt="New (left) and old (right) cabinet hardware" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-586" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">New (left) and old (right) cabinet hardware</div>
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<p>On Tuesday I put the backsplash on, which ended up taking a bit longer than I had planned. I had to make several cuts, and it seemed like it took awhile for the pre-mixed mastic I used to set up. I also spent quite a bit of time on a miter cut in the corner by the sink. It ended up turning out pretty nice though. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8444.jpg" title="New hardware on old cabinets"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8444-250x166.jpg" alt="New hardware on old cabinets" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-588" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">New hardware on old cabinets</div>
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<p>On Wednesday I finally got around to grouting. We chose <em>Harvest</em> as the grout color, which I think turned out fairly nice as well. I disregarded the advice of the salesperson at Lowe&#8217;s and used some of the latex additive in the grout, since my experience had been that it makes it much easier to work with. It took me about 4 hours to grout. After grouting, I had to wait at least 72 hours before sealing it. I let the grout set up a bit for a few hours, then I put the sink in with a bit of silicone underneath the rim, and another bead between the rim and the counter top. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8445.jpg" title="New hardware on the new cabinets"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8445-250x166.jpg" alt="New hardware on the new cabinets" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-589" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">New hardware on the new cabinets</div>
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<p>With the grout on and the sink in, I was ready to re-connect the plumbing, which I did on Thursday morning. I had another surprise waiting for me. After putting the garbage disposal back on, I plugged it in, and it immediately started running, which was not what I was expecting. I thought that maybe I had flipped the switch. Nope. Then it dawned on me. The outlet that I thought was broken a few days earlier was not broken at all. It was wired as intended. Half of the outlet was controlled by the switch, and half was always on. Thus it could be used for the garbage disposal, which needs a switch, and the dishwasher, which doesn&#8217;t. So I searched around the internet and found out that I simply needed to remove the tab between the two screws on the one side. It was a mistake, but I learned some more about electrical in the process.</p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8453.jpg" title="The caulk matches the grout fairly well"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8453-250x166.jpg" alt="The caulk matches the grout fairly well" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-594" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">The caulk matches the grout fairly well</div>
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<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8446.jpg" title="Caulk between the wall and the backsplash, and the backsplash and the counter top"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8446-250x166.jpg" alt="Caulk between the wall and the backsplash, and the backsplash and the counter top" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-590" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Caulk between the wall and the backsplash, and the backsplash and the counter top</div>
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<p>Besides sealing the grout and caulking around the edges, the only thing left to do was to put on the cabinet hardware. This too, turned out to be a bit trickier than I thought. I started off by replacing one of the old knobs on the old upper cabinets with the new handle. This was easy since the holes were already pre-drilled. Then I tried one of the drawers, and discovered that the provided screw was too short, because the drawer front was thicker than the cabinet door fronts. I first thought I would have to go get some longer screws, but then it dawned on me that I could countersink them. I tried countersinking one, but ended up countersinking it a bit too far, so that now the screw was too long. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8448.jpg" title="New cabinets opposite the sink"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8448-250x166.jpg" alt="New cabinets opposite the sink" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-591" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">New cabinets opposite the sink</div>
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<p>I ended up going to the store to buy a couple shorter screws. Then when I got back I tried both a 1/2&#8243; and a 3/4&#8243; screw. The 3/4&#8243; was a touch too long, and the 1/2&#8243; a touch too short. So then I decided to drill a bit more and use the 1/2&#8243;. As soon as I touched the drill bit to the wood, the drill pulled me all the way through! I had just drilled a huge hole in the front of my new drawer!! I was not very happy. I decided that I had the wrong drill bit, so I bought a countersinking drill bit. That didn&#8217;t really do what I wanted either. So in the end I bought longer screws for the drawers. And in the end the hardware looks okay, though it is not all level or even. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8441.jpg" title="New cabinets on the sink side complete"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8441-250x166.jpg" alt="New cabinets on the sink side complete" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-587" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">New cabinets on the sink side complete</div>
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<p>I completed the very last steps &mdash; sealing the grout and caulking &mdash; on the next Monday. I got a video camera for Christmas, and decided to test it out a bit, so I made a short video on my grout sealing method (below). I want to get my video editing skills honed so I can share baby videos in the near future!</p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8452.jpg" title="The kitchen project is complete"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8452-250x166.jpg" alt="The kitchen project is complete" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-593" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">The kitchen project is complete</div>
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		<title>New kitchen cabinets, part two</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>robfelty</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Taking out the old old counter top and cabinets by the sink Once I had the cabinets assembled and installed on the side of the kitchen opposite the sink, I was ready to tackle the sink side. This meant we would be without a sink for awhile, which meant we couldn&#8217;t cook very much. Per [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8350.jpg" title="Taking out the old old counter top and cabinets by the sink"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8350-250x166.jpg" alt="Taking out the old old counter top and cabinets by the sink" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-513" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Taking out the old old counter top and cabinets by the sink</div>
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<p>Once I had the cabinets assembled and installed on the side of the kitchen opposite the sink, I was ready to tackle the sink side. This meant we would be without a sink for awhile, which meant we couldn&#8217;t cook very much. Per Clare&#8217;s suggestion, I tried to cook up a bunch of leftovers beforehand, but since the project took almost twice as long as I had planned, we ended up eating out quite a bit anyways. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8354.jpg" title="Lots of mice poop under the old cabinets"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8354-250x166.jpg" alt="Lots of mice poop under the old cabinets" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-516" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Lots of mice poop under the old cabinets</div>
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<p>The first step was to remove the old kitchen cabinets. I started by disconnecting all the plumbing and shutting off the water to the sink. Then I removed the sink. This involved cutting the silicone with a utility knife, and gradually prying the sink out with a pry bar and a chisel. Then I moved out the dishwasher. Then I began removing the counter top. The counter top was attached with screws from underneath, so I took out all those screws with my handy cordless drill. Once all the screws were out, I used the reciprocating saw to cut the counter top into several pieces. I had to yank the counter top off a bit, since it was also stuck to the wall a bit with some caulk.<br />
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<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8357.jpg" title="Dirt under the sink cabinet"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8357-250x166.jpg" alt="Dirt under the sink cabinet" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-518" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Dirt under the sink cabinet</div>
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<p>Once I had the counter top off, I began removing the cabinets, which were screwed into the studs. They came out rather easily. As I removed each cabinet, I found the floor underneath to be extremely dirty, and littered with mouse poop. We knew that there had been some mouse issues since the house was vacant for a year since we bought it. We haven&#8217;t seen any since we moved in though. At this point I also noticed the extent of the leaking from the sink. There was some sort of makeshift plywood being used for the bottom of the sink cabinet. When I took it out, the plies were completely separated since they had gotten so wet!</p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8358.jpg" title="The plywood base of the sink cabinet had gotten so wet from plumbing leaks that the plies were completely separated."><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8358-250x166.jpg" alt="The plywood base of the sink cabinet had gotten so wet from plumbing leaks that the plies were completely separated." width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-519" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Separated plywood</div>
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<p>Once I had all the cabinets out and had swept up all the mouse poop and dirt, then I began to ponder all the extra drain pipes. There was this large black drain pipe underneath the sink, and it wasn&#8217;t clear what it was for. Ellen thought it was for the dishwasher, which was possible, though it didn&#8217;t quite make sense, since when we hooked up the new dishwasher we attached the drain to the garbage disposal. Clare thought it might be a vent, which would also be odd, since the vent <em>should</em> go to the outside. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8351.jpg" title="Mystery black pipe on the right"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8351-250x166.jpg" alt="Mystery black pipe on the right" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-514" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Mystery black pipe on the right</div>
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<p>At this point I decided to wait on the drain mystery for awhile, and work some more on assembling the cabinets. The corner cabinet with the lazy susan was quite difficult to assemble. Most of the cabinets came with instructions that had both text and pictures, but the corner cabinet instructions had only pictures. It came with quite a few different kinds of screws, and there was no indication on the directions which screws went where, or when I should screw things in. In particular, the shelves were screwed in, which was different from all the other cabinets, where the bottom was attached with cams, and the shelves simply rest on small pegs. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8353.jpg" title="Another mystery pipe and some damaged drywall"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8353-250x166.jpg" alt="Another mystery pipe and some damaged drywall" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-515" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Another mystery pipe and some damaged drywall</div>
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<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8360.jpg" title="The corner cabinet got a bit damaged in shipping"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8360-250x166.jpg" alt="The corner cabinet got a bit damaged in shipping" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-521" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">The corner cabinet got a bit damaged in shipping</div>
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<p>The other difference with the corner cabinet was that it had gotten a bit damaged in shipping. I decided not to worry about it though, since I did not want to wait for a replacement to be shipped. I suppose I could have assembled all the cabinets to begin with, and then I would have discovered it early enough to get something shipped, but I didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Perhaps the trickiest part of the corner cabinet was assembling the face frame. All the other face frames were totally assembled, but since the corner cabinet face frame makes an L, it came in two pieces so it could be shipped in a flat box. I used my clamp to hold the two pieces together while I attached them with screws. I ended up having to start over at least once because I didn&#8217;t get them flush. Then I had the mystery of attaching the doors. These doors have some very special hinges, and not very good instructions. I ended up taking out the old corner cabinet to look at it, which helped quite a bit. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8359.jpg" title="I also used the clamps to put together the face frame of the corner lazy susan cabinet, which was most difficult to assemble"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8359-250x166.jpg" alt="I also used the clamps to put together the face frame of the corner lazy susan cabinet, which was most difficult to assemble" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-520" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">I also used the clamps to put together the face frame of the corner lazy susan cabinet, which was most difficult to assemble</div>
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<p>We decided to buy the lazy susan for the corner cabinet, which I am fairly happy with, even though it does result in some wasted space. The lazy susan was different than I had expected. I had expected two shelves attached by a pole, which seems to be common. Instead, there were two separate lazy susans which get screwed directly into the shelves. I think this design is actually much sturdier, and allows the two lazy susans to turn separately. There was a hole pre-drilled in the top of the lazy susan. To install it, you turn the lazy susan until this hole lines up with one of the four holes in the base. Then you drop a screw in the hole and screw it in. Then you turn it 1/4 turn, and repeat. They are very secure, and they turn very nicely. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8362.jpg" title="I thought the design for the lazy susan was clever. The base has 4 holes in it for screws. You turn the top until the one hole matches one of the 4, then secure it with a screw, then make a 1/4 turn and put in the next one"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8362-250x166.jpg" alt="Attaching the lazy susan" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-523" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Attaching the lazy susan</div>
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<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8361.jpg" title="The corner cabinet almost assembled, with one lazy susan in"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8361-250x166.jpg" alt="The corner cabinet almost assembled, with one lazy susan in" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-522" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">The corner cabinet almost assembled, with one lazy susan in</div>
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<p>When Clare got home from work on Thursday, I asked her to help me do some troubleshooting. I went downstairs, and had Clare pour some water down the mystery pipe. I could hear it going down the drain pipe, so it seemed to be a drain. Then I also had her shake it a bit, and through this I discovered some additional drain pipe down stairs which had been cut off. It seems that there used to be some sort of make-shift bathroom down there. Finally we discovered that the mystery black pipe was connected to the drain pipe for the sink. Then the question was whether or not the two curved white pipes coming out of the floor were connected. The next day I looked up on the roof, and there was only one vent coming out. I also removed some drywall, and found that the drain for the sink (on the left) connected to the drain for downstairs (on the right), and that both were then vented through the same pipe. Mystery solved.</p>
<p>Now that I had torn out some of the drywall, I had to patch it. We had brought a few small pieces of drywall from Spencer for some other miscellaneous wall patching that we needed to do, but it wasn&#8217;t big enough. Once again, Dave and Ellen had the perfect solution &#8212; go to Lowe&#8217;s, buy a sheet of drywall, then cut it in the parking lot so it would fit into my car. Friday turned out to be a very nice day &mdash; about 50 degrees and sunny. I brought my tape measure, chalk line, and utility knife and went off to Lowe&#8217;s. While I was there I also picked up a few other things, including some great stuff. When I got home I began patching the drywall, which for me always requires lots of cutting of 1/4&#8243; to 1/2&#8243; pieces of drywall until it fits nicely. So that took a couple hours. After mudding and taping, I squirted some great stuff around the pipes to better seal them off. I also put some great stuff around the vent pipes for the furnace in the basement, which had some pretty big gaps. That stuff really is great.</p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8364.jpg" title="Old cabinets out, Floor cleaned up, drain mysteries solved, and drywall repaired."><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8364-250x166.jpg" alt="Old cabinets out, Floor cleaned up, drain mysteries solved, and drywall repaired." width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-524" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Old cabinets out, Floor cleaned up, drain mysteries solved, and drywall repaired.</div>
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<p>Saturday my plan was to install all the cabinets on the sink side, cut the plywood and cement board, and secure the cement board. Then I could tile on Sunday. Well, it ended up taking about half the day to get the sink cabinet in. I wanted to make it look as nice as possible, so I cut out the hole in the back for the pipes pretty tight, but the heating vent being under the sink meant that we had to tilt the sink cabinet to get it in, which meant that I ended up having to cut the hole larger and larger. I had initially cut the hole in the back in the garage, but as I cut out a little more and more I simply did this in the kitchen. For part of this I used the jigsaw, and for part I used the reciprocating saw. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8366.jpg" title="I put some great stuff around the pipes where there were still some gaps"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8366-250x166.jpg" alt="I put some great stuff around the pipes where there were still some gaps" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-526" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">I put some great stuff around the pipes where there were still some gaps</div>
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<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8356.jpg" title="The heating vent under the sink cabinet turned out to be very difficult to work around"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8356-250x166.jpg" alt="The heating vent under the sink cabinet turned out to be very difficult to work around" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-517" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">The heating vent under the sink cabinet turned out to be very difficult to work around</div>
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<p>The trickiest part about the heating vent under the sink was with the toekick. I cut out part of the toekick for the vent to go in, but I cut it out so that the edge of the vent would overlap a little, and look nice. Unfortunately though, there was simply no way to get the cabinet in with the toekick attached, and there was no way to get it on afterwards either. I went through about 5 different &#8220;ingenious&#8221; ideas, none of which worked. In the end I ended up taking the vent cover off to get the cabinet in, and then put the vent cover back in afterwards. I had thought that I could then put the screws back into the vent cover by drilling some holes in the bottom of the cabinet, but then later realized that the holes were covered up by the toekick. So the vent cover is now simply sitting there, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to be falling off. That was a frustrating day.</p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8371.jpg" title="In order to avoid using a full sheet of plywood for the corner I cut a 3" strip from some scrap for the very end."><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8371-250x166.jpg" alt="In order to avoid using a full sheet of plywood for the corner I cut a 3" strip from some scrap for the very end." width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-529" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">In order to avoid using a full sheet of plywood for the corner I cut a 3&#8243; strip from some scrap for the very end.</div>
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<p>While I was cutting the hole in the back of the sink cabinet bigger bit by bit, I ran into another issue. The outlet under the sink seemed broken! The top half worked, but not the bottom half. I thought that I might have nicked the wire to the outlet under the sink when doing the drywall repair, or maybe it was just a coincidence. At any rate, I called Dave, the electrical expert, and he suggested simply to put in a new one. So I went to Ace and got a new outlet, and figured out how to put it in. There was one hitch. There were 6 wires, and only 5 places to put them. The old outlet had slots in the back for the wires as well as screws on the side. All of the slots were filled, plus the ground, plus one black wire on the side. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8369.jpg" title="We used the old sink, since we like it and it is in good shape"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8369-250x166.jpg" alt="We used the old sink, since we like it and it is in good shape" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-528" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">We used the old sink, since we like it and it is in good shape</div>
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<p>The new outlet only had screws on the side. So I first started by attaching 5 wires. The white wires went on the left side, and one black and one red on the right side, and the ground on the bottom. I turned the breaker back on, and the outlet worked, but as I suspected, the outlet next to it did not, because I had one black wire left over. So then I called Dave again, and he suggested keeping the breaker on, and trying to touch the extra wire to each screw, making sure to not touch any exposed wire. I tried the screw with the black wire first, and that did the trick. So I turned the breaker back off, doubled up the black wires, and we were good to go. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8368.jpg" title="New cabinets in. Sink fits hole in plywood"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8368-250x166.jpg" alt="New cabinets in. Sink fits hole in plywood" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-527" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">New cabinets in. Sink fits hole in plywood</div>
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<p>By the time I got the sink installed it was after 8 p.m. I wanted to cut the plywood, but Clare convinced me to knock off. That was a good idea, since it ended up taking 4 or 5 hours on Sunday to cut the plywood and the cement board. Much of the time was spent on cutting the hole for the sink in the cement board. This involves scoring each side quite deeply, then tapping a hammer around the edges of the hole until it comes out. At some point I started cheating, and was using the reciprocating saw, which worked for awhile, until a part broke off. So then I remembered my past advice to myself about <a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/archives.php/2008/02/10/dont-take-shortcutsorthe-tile-is-on-the-wall/'>not cutting corners</a> and simply used the hammer tapping method, which is tedious, but it does work. </p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8375.jpg" title="Cutting the hole around the sink in the cement board is very tedious"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8375-250x166.jpg" alt="Cutting the hole around the sink in the cement board is very tedious" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-531" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Cutting the hole around the sink in the cement board is very tedious</div>
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<p>After cutting the plywood, and then again after cutting the cement board, I tested putting the sink in the hole to make sure it fit, which it did.</p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8376.jpg" title="The cement board cracked in one place by the sink."><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8376-250x166.jpg" alt="The cement board cracked in one place by the sink." width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-532" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">The cement board cracked in one place by the sink.</div>
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<p>Once I had all the cement board cut, then I attached the plywood to the cabinets with wood screws. Then I secured the cement board to the plywood on both sides of the kitchen with thin-set mortar, followed by special hardi-backer screws and roofing nails. I used the screws around the edges, and the nails in the middle. I also taped the joints of the cement board, and put a very thin layer of thin-set on them. My previous attempts at this had always resulted in a bump between the sections of cement board, but this time I finally got it right. After I finished attaching the cement board, Clare and I had lunch at the Yak and Yeti, and then relaxed for a bit. Tiling had now been moved to Monday, which will be documented in part three.</p>
<div class="imageframe alignleft" style="width:250px;"><a href="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8374.jpg" title="Cement board cut. It took me at least an hour just to cut the hole for the sink"><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_8374-250x166.jpg" alt="Cement board cut. It took me at least an hour just to cut the hole for the sink" width="250" height="166" class="attachment wp-att-530" /></a>
<div class="imagecaption">Cement board cut. It took me at least an hour just to cut the hole for the sink</div>
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			<media:title type="html">The corner cabinet got a bit damaged in shipping</media:title>
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