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		<title>New windows et alia</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[New window with trim (still need to paint the caulk in the corners) The siding overlapped the old window Rob removes the middle part of the old window frame When Dave and Ellen came to visit Spencer several weeks ago, we found some time to tackle a few home improvement projects when we weren&#8217;t playing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132011-13.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132011-13.jpg" alt="New window with trim (still need to paint the caulk in the corners)" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>New window with trim (still need to paint the caulk in the corners)</div>
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<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132009-2.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132009-2.jpg" alt="The siding overlapped the old window" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>The siding overlapped the old window</div>
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<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132009-1.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132009-1.jpg" alt="Rob removes the middle part of the old window frame" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>Rob removes the middle part of the old window frame</div>
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<p> When Dave and Ellen came to visit Spencer several weeks ago, we found some  time to tackle a few home improvement projects when we weren&#8217;t playing with  the boy. Clare and I bought new windows for the whole house a few months ago.  All but 2 of the current windows are original, and are not very well  insulated. After a fair amount of deliberation, we decided to go with the  Pella vinyl sliders from Lowe&#8217;s. They get pretty good reviews, and they are  relatively inexpensive. I really wanted to get wood casement windows, because  they look nicer, and seal even better than sliders, but it would have been  about $1000 per window for the casements, and the vinyl sliders were only  about $150 each. We also considered having Lowe&#8217;s install the windows, but  they wanted $238 per window, so we decided to give it a try ourselves, and if  we totally messed up, we figured we could always hire a handy man (probably  for less than $238 per window). We bought the windows at the same time we  bought the materials for the kitchen countertop, since Lowe&#8217;s has a flat fee  for delivery. Also, in case you haven&#8217;t heard, you can get a tax deduction  for installing energy efficient windows (and furnaces and other stuff). Save  your receipts.<br />
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<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132010-5.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132010-5.jpg" alt="Rob cuts off some of the old siding" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>Rob cuts off some of the old siding</div>
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<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132012-16.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132012-16.jpg" alt="Two new windows, almost done" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>Two new windows, almost done</div>
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<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132010-4.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132010-4.jpg" alt="One window out!" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>One window out!</div>
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<p> For the first window, Dave and I started early afternoon. The first task was  figuring out how to get the old window out. There was no trim around the old  windows. The siding came directly up to the window. So in order to figure out  how the window was installed, we removed one of the boards of wood siding. As  we had expected, the old aluminum frames had a nailing fin which was covered  by the siding. So we got out the circular saw, and set it to the right depth  to cut through just the siding, so that we could get out the old window. Then  we removed the glass on the old window, cut the middle part with a hacksaw  (which in retrospect seems unnecessary, but it was in the instructions), cut  the old caulk, and then pried out the old window frame. </p>
<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132010-3.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132010-3.jpg" alt="One window in!" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>One window in!</div>
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<p> The next step involved lots of decisions. Did we want to leave the trim and  sill as is? Originally the inside of the windows was finished with drywall  instead of with some sort of wood trim. After discussing it with several  friends who had a little experience, we decided that we could always replace  the interior trim at a later stage, and that for the time being, the  important thing was trying to improve efficiency. Having decided on trim  options, we then tried to do a rough fit of the window. We discovered that  the interior dimensions of the new window were slightly bigger than the old  window, and that we would have to remove some of the drywall to get it fit.  By this time it was starting to get dark, so we decided to call it a day. We  simply put a few temporary nails in the window so that we wouldn&#8217;t have a  gaping hole in the house all night. </p>
<p> The next day, we got back to work on the window. We fiddled with the drywall  until we got the window to fit nicely. Then we worked on leveling the window.  We discovered that the old sill was not quite level, so we had to use some  shims while we were securing the window. As it turns out, we didn&#8217;t get the  first window quite level. We followed the instructions and used the level  vertically, but we were using it against the sliding window, and the sliding  part was not quite level. In the end, it worked out relatively ok. Live and  learn.</p>
<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132010-7.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132010-7.jpg" alt="Dave works on getting the old caulk off" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>Dave works on getting the old caulk off</div>
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<p> Once we were satisfied with the placement of the window, we put clear silicone  caulk around the perimeter of the window opening, where the fin rests. Then  we used a combination of galvanized roofing nails, and special screws to  secure the window. </p>
<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132010-8.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132010-8.jpg" alt="Close-up of the nail fin on the new windows" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>Close-up of the nail fin on the new windows</div>
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<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132012-15.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132012-15.jpg" alt="The yellow stuff is 'great stuff' foam sealant" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>The yellow stuff is &#8216;great stuff&#8217; foam sealant</div>
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<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132011-9.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132011-9.jpg" alt="Testing the brick moulding" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>Testing the brick moulding</div>
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<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132011-10.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132011-10.jpg" alt="Caulk on the inside of the window. I used DAP acrylic" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>Caulk on the inside of the window. I used DAP acrylic</div>
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<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132011-12.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132011-12.jpg" alt="New windows from the inside" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>New windows from the inside</div>
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<p> The next step was to install some trim. After looking at various options at  Lowe&#8217;s, we decided on PVC brick moulding. I later read that it lasts longer  than wood. The brick moulding is 2&#8243; wide, which is a bit wider than the  amount of siding we had cut off. So Dave worked on cutting more of the siding  off, while I tried out my new miter saw to cut 45 degree angles in the brick  moulding. We also put some great stuff around the windows where there were  some big gaps. Then I painted the trim to match the color of our new garage  door. Ultimately we plan to have the house some sort of yellow-beige with  hunter green trim.</p>
<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132010-6.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132010-6.jpg" alt="Ellen puts in a new vent cover" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>Ellen puts in a new vent cover</div>
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<p> A day or two after we put in the first window it got pretty cold again, so it  was good we worked when we did. The cold only lasted a day or two though, so  we had another nice day to put in the other window in the family room. This  one only took about 6 hours or so, and we got it more level. We also hung up  some plastic sheeting inside, which reduced the amount of sawdust and debris  we got inside. We still made some mistakes. Probably the biggest mistake is  that we set the window directly on the sill without any shims, because the  sill was level. It turned out that the sliding window did not close quite  right this way. At the top of the window, inside the sliding part, there was  2 extra plastic spacers. The top of the sliding window was hitting these  spacers instead of sliding just under them. I couldn&#8217;t see any use for the  spacers really, so I just took them out. </p>
<p> Now we have 2 windows down, and 6 more to go. The upstairs ones will certainly  be trickier, but hopefully doable. We bought an extra extension ladder so two  people can climb up holding the window. Dave and Ellen arrive today for  another 10 day visit, so I am sure we will get some more work done.</p>
<div style='width:250px' class='imageframe alignleft'><a href='http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/20090401-132011-11.jpg'><img src="http://blog.fedibblety.com/wp-photos/thumb.20090401-132011-11.jpg" alt="Dave works on the last register cover" class="attachment" /></a>
<div class='imagecaption'>Dave works on the last register cover</div>
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<p> Besides the windows, we also got a few other small projects done. One project  was to replace the heating vent covers in the living room. When we painted  back in November, we took off the old vent covers. We had planned on getting  new ones, but after looking around at Lowe&#8217;s, we decided that we didn&#8217;t like  the options. They had nice metal covers with some fancy designs for floor  vents, but not for wall vents. So we ended up just putting the old ones back  in. The one by the upstairs landing didn&#8217;t quite fit right, because the  carpet was in the way. Since Ellen had taken off the old ones when we painted  (with the old carpet still there), I decided I would wait until she visited,  and let her show me how to fix it. Although no other visitor mentioned the  heating cover sticking out of the wall halfway, Ellen noticed it almost  immediately. </p>
<p> Ellen&#8217;s solution was to buy new covers, made of wood. With the wood covers we  could simply cut off one side a bit to make it fit by the carpet. And we got  to try out another new tool too &mdash; the router. It was a bit tricky to  get the cover secured, but once we did, the router was definitely the right  tool for the job. </p>
<p> There was an interesting side effect of these two projects. For the last 3  weeks, it has seemed a bit cooler in the living room compared to the rest of  the house, on average about 3 &#8211; 4 degrees. I had been thinking that maybe I  hadn&#8217;t done a very good job sealing the new windows. Clare recently mentioned  a different theory. When installing the new vent covers, Ellen had mentioned  that she had installed the one by the stair landing upside-down. That is, it  was pointing up instead of down. For a vent near the floor, that might be the  desired effect, but for vents half-way up the 20 foot wall in the living  room, you would definitely want them pointing down. We also discovered that  the other vents on that wall were also upside down. So today I finally got  around to changing that, and lo and behold, the vents were also closed! That  explains quite a bit! After fixing that this morning, the temperature in the  living room seems only about 1-2 degrees cooler than in the dining room.  There are still some good reasons for it being colder, namely the high  ceiling, and the fact that it is on a slab. But now that the heating vents  are open and pointing slightly down, it is a bit warmer.</p>
<p> Another small project that Dave undertook was installing a <a href='http://twinsprings.com/foodproduction/compostingkitchenwaste.html'>5  gallon bucket compost</a>. Dave uses these in Arizona, and we tried them in  Spencer too. They are very easy to install, cheap, and work pretty well.  We&#8217;ve already filled that one up, so we need to dig another one soon. We have  found that having 2-4 at one time works pretty well, so that some of the  buckets can finish composting while you continue to fill one. We are  especially excited about the compost, since we have been trying out  composting some of the <a href='http://gdiaper.com'>G diaper</a> inserts we  have been using.</p>
<p> Finally, just a list of a few other projects we got done (checking things off  the to-do list always feels nice)
<ul>
<li>Ellen
<ul>
<li>Shortened blinds</li>
<li>Scrubbed floor near kitchen and stairs</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Dave
<ul>
<li>Started an herb garden</li>
<li>Installed 2 of 4 basement window well covers</li>
<li>Installed new license plates on Versa</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p> Oh yeah. Did I also mention that they spent a lot of time comforting Spencer?</p>
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			<media:title type="html">Dave works on getting the old caulk off</media:title>
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